Van Jones Town sheeple - the trigger, Old #7

Oh my, the gum dom Van Jones Town certainly can herd dog 'em!!!

Just because you don't hear their whistle doesn't mean you don't drink the kool aid.

{*grab popcorn*}

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"...from George Zimmerman before he stalked him, chased him, then engaged in a brawl with him and subsequently shot him."

Is this Charles Manson's opinion or yours?

Or I could have said I had a steak for supper.  Just what is the response to counter the Liberal Facsist  chanting point "...ALEC killed Trayvon!!!"  or worse the other chanting point of the left "...Koch.... evil..... brothers!!!!!!!!!!!!"...

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"...Zimmerman is the one not receiving the benfit of the doubt."

Not to mention the bounty on his head and the safety of his family.

Ms. Dowd would be proud!

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"KR sees some sort of guilt on the part of Trayvon Martin because he had been suspended from school."

Just the facts ma'am; was Martin suspended from school or not? If he was suspended then was he not guilty? If he should not have been suspended then I agree of an injustice!!!

But I already saw that molehill:

Hmmm, I've already addressed this on my blog:

http://stark-raving-sane-dont-go-in.blogspot.com/2012/04/van-jones-town-sheeple-mental-prequel.html

I said: "Either Martin was kicked out of school or he was a truant. Well, otherwise he would have been back in Miami, right.

Yep, my first thought is the school was wrong for kickin him out... unless you think he was a truant?"

And

"Well, I'm with you if you have something; I've actually asked why the hell Martin was kicked out of school!!! Was that right? Why not Keep him IN school, duh!!!!"

And it finally looks like you are starting to agree with ME: "A failure by the school to give Trayvon Martin the benefit of the doubt. It is likely that zero tolerance school policies go too far."

Maybe the pernicious peevee can't handle his Peni'sBlogChichi-awwwwa!!! Van Jones Town style.

But then to spew out a regurgitation of the Van Jones Town chanting points...

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"But the pros and cons..."

Whoa, STOP!!! Are you seriously excluding everything about Martin except for the moment he was shot but turn around and... character assassin Zimmerman... and then change your mind and praise Martin for being a model student and citizen worth of a Nobel prize? Your idea or Charles Manson's perception?

Just wondering how any logical person could come to that conclusion.  Heh heh heh  Oh, yeah,you already said something about the right of public opinion to carry pitchforks...

Are you the leader and founder of some Gated Community Watch Program started to confront an unfortunate crime wave? Or just a dog on a leash?

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"The reality is that there was NOTHING suspicious about Trayvon Martin. "

A stranger that people haven't seen before in a gated community that has been plagued with burglaries should be ignored by neighborhood watch people? Are you serious?

And then, Dog Gone, you go hard on the Van Jones Town chanting points.

BTW, are gated communities unconstitutional?

PS, is Obama a white American or a white African or a white Hispanic?

The last jab probably isn't understood by peevee or deegee...

Now, I wasn't treating anyone with any real disrespect, just the facts man, ma'am... Liberal Fascist...

Go ahead, call me a Classical Liberal, make my day!

Van Jones Town sheeple - the trigger, south end

Fade to a response to a post on Peni'sBlog....
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"...So, there IS no conspiracy to deny Zimmerman bail, or a hearing, or anything else. The man IS a flight risk according to his own attorneys..."

Yet you can't provide an actual quote?

Help me out here folks, didn't his counsel say they were no longer representing him since they hadn't heard from him (being there actually was a bounty on his head) but they still would reconsider representing him if he came out of hiding...

Crickets over quotes? Ouch.

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"...stop looking so foolish. This is how the judicial process works, despite your requests to have people denied due process (in capital cases),..."

Requests? Yet you can't provide an actual quote?

Typical tactic of a Liberal Fascist, start that lie early and often. Not much credibility with this pernicious lib.

Crickets? Strike 2.

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"...even those who appear to be nothing more nor less than vigilanties[SIC]"

Is that "how the judicial process works"  

Apparently guilty until proven innocent?  And yet you can't provide and actual quote.

Oh yeah, use their own words against them!!! But, Whoa, starting to look like a Van Jones Town sheeple. 

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"the system Trayvon Martin didn't get access to"

I would like to hear why you think the school suspension denied him of his rights?

Pen, is it possible for a person to die from a single punch?

Best regards,

K-Rod

Now, I wasn't tryin to belittle a self-righteous leftyblogger. But unless you are a stateist you will "offend" the Liberal Fascists.  Just a nice benign little trigger.  Set.   Heh heh heh

But wait there's more!  BYOP!  [Bring yer own popcorn!]

Van Jones Town sheeple - the mental prequel

I know absolutely no person that doesn't agree that the death of Trayvon Martin is a tragedy.

Personally, I think it was one tragedy among many other daily tragedies; why this should over shadow all of the other tragedies is wrong and only due to partisan politics. (Some would say the Liberal Fascist agenda, maybe?)

The following might be the efforts of any fictitious bunch of pixels, but in this case it might actually be my biological spawn if I were raped by the devil... blood might be thicker than water but wrong needs to be corrected:
.......

...The school in Miami would not confirm or deny the.... information about Martin; no confirmatory test was made of the.... contents of what was identified as MAYBE an empty marijuana bag, it was a guess, nor while it was found with Martin was the empty bag identified as being his. In any case, at the time of his death, Martin did not have any pot in his system or alcohol. Therefore I have no need to know or care about the schools allegation, it is completely irrelevant to what happened that night.

Either Martin was kicked out of school or he was a truant. Well, otherwise he would have been back in Miami, right.
Yep, my first thought is the school was wrong for kickin him out... unless you think he was a truant?

All of the nonsense from Trayvon Martin's school is irrelevant; he was a good kid, not violent, not a troublemaker, had good grades, played sports, had a good relationship with his teachers. Got A's and B's.

Is that Charles Manson's take?

Zimmerman didn't know about anything in Trayvon Martin's past so it could not have had any legitimate influence on his thinking at the time. He made assumptions of guilt and intent that were not legitimate, not valid, not justified.

What? Is this your take?

Had Zimmerman given Trayvon Martin the benefit of the doubt, the presumption of innocence until something had proven him guilty - in which case his ONLY legitimate action would be to direct police to where he had last seen Trayvon Martin -we wouldn't be having this discussion, and a kid wouldn't be dead.

Beat me silly!!! What the heck are you talking about? VAN This would have happened JONES if Martin instead ran down the VAN street yelling JONES help Mommy? Is that your VAN JONES claim?

Did he indeed do that VAN and JONES was shot dead in the back by a "WHITE" Hispanic while saying Mommy and Daddy please save me...?

What else you got, LeftyLib?

I don't see YOU giving Trayvon Martin any benefit of the doubt - why is that?

Well, I'm with you if you have something; I've actually asked why the hell Martin was kicked out of school!!! Was that right? Why not Keep him IN school, duh!!!!

"All I have done is call for the arrest and trial of George Zimmerman based on the clear discrepancies in the available information - like the proof from the phone record of Trayvon Martin's cell phone that he was speaking to his girlfriend at the time he was killed."

Are you part of the prosecution? Do you have all the facts? How the heck do YOU have all the information?

Clearly, the prosecutor, going for 2nd degree murder, as well as the determination of the investigator at the time, thought there was a legitimate grounds for this arrest.

Well, the fact is that you called for charges before even the prosecutor had enough information to press charges. (that's gotta hurt)

If Zimmerman is innocent, which I doubt, he will be acquitted. But he shouldn't be allowed to do what he did initiating the conflict, without any legitimate authority, which is the problem with the shoot first laws.

What does your doubt have to do with it? Life in prison because YOU say? Why do you keep on talking about some fictitious "shoot first laws"?

But why are YOU not willing to give Trayvon Martin the benefit of the doubt?

Answered already, please stop chanting.

What about ALL of us, regardless of who we are - age, race, gender, economic status - being able to walk where we want to go as free human beings, allowed to mind our own business, without some vigilante accosting us, or chasing us? Much less, shooting unarmed people.

Well, DFLibby, if you have really been accosted then that is almost as bad as what happened to me; I actually was accosted by the Ramsey County Sheriffs. Yep, simply walking down my street, but that is another issue; some hot head copper actually shoved me from behind hoping to skid me face into the asphalt... I even let the mayor know... to no avail... don't mess with the...

You are focusing on the wrong thing here K[-Rod], and you're not willing to give the same presumption of innocence to both, which is what is unfair.

Blink, blink. Huh? Whay thing are you Van focusing on here, DFL?

I would suggest to you that I have made a greater effort to be well informed before advancing an opinion,...

*facepalm*

Oh Bother.

True pooh, fiction, make up... oh nooooooo..... .....


All and only my copyrights, if ya use em ya owe me big me....

...great script, eh...

Flight risk? The leftyblogosphere over a shark!

Oh my, the local left-wing bloggers are certainly foaming at the mouth over one 'black' Hispanic shooting a 'white' African-American possibly in an act of self defense.

Now, I'm not a smug self-appointed "intellectual" like Peevee or Dog Gone over at Peni'sBlog and I refuse to rush to judgment as they have. Indeed, they have been carrying the torch and pitchforks for weeks while law enforcement was busy investigating, quietly, patiently investigating.

My question is just why is the Hispanic man not afforded bail yet, especially since he turned himself in and should not be considered a flight risk.

[And the other question for the said liberals is: Have you ever met an angry and racist gun? What do guns have against women?]

RIP Joel R

Sad news that Joel Rosenberg has passed away. I first met Joel online on the Star Tribune Talk section. He was instrumental in human rights and the 2nd Amendment...

He will be missed.

History repeats itself, again?

Kagan wins Senate confirmation in mostly partisan vote, 13 to 6

All the Democrats on the committee voted in favor of Kagan, while all but one Republican, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), voted against her. Graham, who was one of just nine Republicans who voted in favor of Sonia Sotomayor’s confirmation last year, joined Democrats in voting in favor of Kagan.

R as in RINO?

We went through this with Sotomayor.

I warned of Sotomayor's desire to repeal the second amendment.

We can be assured that Kagan will do the same.

Here are the details we must not forget.

Remember when stare decisis was important

Back during the last confirmation proceedings Judge Sotomayor claimed to agree that “The Second Amendment Right Is An Individual Right”.

(Judiciary Committee, U.S. Senate, Confirmation Hearing, 7/14/09)

SEN. PAT LEAHY (D-VT): “Is It Safe To Say That You Accept The Supreme Court’s Decision As Establishing That The Second Amendment Right Is An Individual Right? Is That Correct?”
JUDGE SOTOMAYOR: “Yes, Sir.”

So how did Justice Sotomayor vote in the McDonald case?

“I Can Find Nothing In The Second Amendment’s Text, History, Or Underlying Rationale That Could Warrant Characterizing It As ‘Fundamental’ Insofar As It Seeks To Protect The Keeping And Bearing Of Arms For Private Self-Defense Purposes.”

She was one of the 4 that voted against the 2nd Amendment!
It appears that she lied to us.
What about Heller? What about Stare Decisis?

Will our elected officials repeat this mistake?

(Judiciary Committee, U.S. Senate, Confirmation Hearing, 6/29/10)

SEN. PAT LEAHY (D-VT): “Is There Any Doubt After The Court’s Decisions In Heller And McDonald That The Second Amendment To The Constitution, Secures A Fundamental Right For An Individual To Own A Firearm, Use It For Self Defense In Their Home?”
ELENA KAGAN: “There Is No Doubt, Senator Leahy, That Is Binding Precedent Entitled To All The Respect Of Binding Precedent In Any Case. So That Is Settled Law.”

But Kagan doesn't care about SCOTUS nomination proceedings:

“Subsequent Hearings Have Presented To The Public A Vapid And Hollow Charade, In Which Repetition Of Platitudes Has Replaced Discussion Of Viewpoints And Personal Anecdotes Have Supplanted Legal Analysis.” - Elena Kagan

Wow.
Well, America, how is that for a poke in your eye?